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请问办绿卡的事,在拿到offer的时候就应该谈好吗?

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标  题: [合集] 请问办绿卡的事,在拿到offer的时候就应该谈好吗?
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jun  2 00:03:36 2012, 美东)


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  numa (驽马) 于 (Fri Jul 29 16:54:40 2011, 美东) 提到:

刚接到hiring manager的电话口头offer,说会给办h1b.我就问公司是不是可以sponsor
办绿卡.他说还不能承诺,可能要看我以后的表现之类的

我就觉得心里没底

请问大家都是这样的吗?都是工作一段时间之后再谈绿卡的事?



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  G777 (xiaosan) 于 (Fri Jul 29 17:36:44 2011, 美东) 提到:

I would do it one by one. Start working there and let them see your
contribution. Then move on to GC. Otherwise, they would think it too
bothersome to hire an international.

  Just put yourself into their shoes and think about the best solution.



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  numa (驽马) 于 (Fri Jul 29 17:47:31 2011, 美东) 提到:

哦,谢谢!

刚毕业没工作过,不知道这种事情大家的惯例是什么.

如果大部分人都是这么一步一步来的,那我也没问题



【 在 G777 (xiaosan) 的大作中提到: 】
:  I would do it one by one. Start working there and let them see your
: contribution. Then move on to GC. Otherwise, they would think it too
: bothersome to hire an international.
:   Just put yourself into their shoes and think about the best solution.






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  autumnworm (虫子,秋天的) 于 (Fri Jul 29 18:04:17 2011, 美东) 提到:

可以问公司绿卡政策,但是还没开始工作就要求绿卡还是不太好。




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  numa (驽马) 于 (Fri Jul 29 18:15:54 2011, 美东) 提到:

谢谢!

刚才给我打电话里给我讲完口头offer的时候,问我有什么问题没有.我最关心的就是绿
卡问题,就问了将来有没有可能办绿卡,并不是要求马上就办

然后对方说公司还没办过绿卡,然后大意说,如果干得好,他个人的想法是希望可以给我办

公司在那个分部只有五十个人,所以可能的确没办过...


【 在 autumnworm (虫子,秋天的) 的大作中提到: 】
: 可以问公司绿卡政策,但是还没开始工作就要求绿卡还是不太好。






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  G777 (xiaosan) 于 (Fri Jul 29 19:01:28 2011, 美东) 提到:

So,better not to ask. Contribute first. Make them happy both socially and
technically. At the same time, keep an eye on the job market. If it is
looser, you might try to go to another company which sponsors GC. Or, you
can talk with your boss after getting another offer about GC.



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  numa (驽马) 于 (Fri Jul 29 21:27:12 2011, 美东) 提到:

好的,谢谢!


【 在 G777 (xiaosan) 的大作中提到: 】
:  So,better not to ask. Contribute first. Make them happy both socially and
: technically. At the same time, keep an eye on the job market. If it is
: looser, you might try to go to another company which sponsors GC. Or, you
: can talk with your boss after getting another offer about GC.






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  autumnworm (虫子,秋天的) 于 (Fri Jul 29 22:57:13 2011, 美东) 提到:

恩。这样问应该没什么问题。bless!

【 在 numa (驽马) 的大作中提到: 】
: 谢谢!
: 刚才给我打电话里给我讲完口头offer的时候,问我有什么问题没有.我最关心的就是绿
: 卡问题,就问了将来有没有可能办绿卡,并不是要求马上就办
: 然后对方说公司还没办过绿卡,然后大意说,如果干得好,他个人的想法是希望可以给
我办
: 公司在那个分部只有五十个人,所以可能的确没办过...






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  numa (驽马) 于 (Sat Jul 30 00:31:25 2011, 美东) 提到:

刚才问了问师兄,他说一般找工作的时候,绿卡的事都会问清楚,这样模棱两可的,怕
以后不给办就很麻烦

所以,我是不是应该再跟公司的HR问问清楚,问问公司绿卡的policy是什么?

纠结中。。。各位再帮我出出主意


【 在 autumnworm (虫子,秋天的) 的大作中提到: 】
: 恩。这样问应该没什么问题。bless!
: 我办






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  xlby (xlby) 于 (Sat Jul 30 00:47:43 2011, 美东) 提到:

我也和你一样纠结呢,不知道该不该问,我应聘得公司也是说之前从来没有办过H1b,
但是因为我的背景太match了,所以破例给办H1b。不知道等H1b批下来之后,是不是马
上问能不能sponsor GC。请有经验的前辈们指点指点。本打算H1批了之后立即申请Eb1b
,这样子家里LD也可以有EAD卡上班了 。



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  numa (驽马) 于 (Sat Jul 30 01:02:12 2011, 美东) 提到:

嗯,道理的确是应该先给公司做些贡献,再办绿卡

但如果到时候跟我说,我们公司不给办这个,我不就郁闷了么


【 在 xlby (xlby) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我也和你一样纠结呢,不知道该不该问,我应聘得公司也是说之前从来没有办过H1b,
: 但是因为我的背景太match了,所以破例给办H1b。不知道等H1b批下来之后,是不是马
: 上问能不能sponsor GC。请有经验的前辈们指点指点。本打算H1批了之后立即申请
Eb1b
: ,这样子家里LD也可以有EAD卡上班了 。






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  icdane (travelaround) 于 (Sat Jul 30 02:51:37 2011, 美东) 提到:

我所有的offer给的时候要么是公司自己说会办,要么是我提出,然后对方说公司的政
策,反正我拿到的Offer的公司都同意办,开始时间是从入职后3月-12月不等...



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  numa (驽马) 于 (Sat Jul 30 09:47:23 2011, 美东) 提到:

哦,那请问这个事情是问HR还是问hiring manager比较合适呢?

真正做决定给不给我办绿卡的,是这两者都有,还是某个人更有决定作用呢?




【 在 icdane (travelaround) 的大作中提到: 】
: 我所有的offer给的时候要么是公司自己说会办,要么是我提出,然后对方说公司的政
: 策,反正我拿到的Offer的公司都同意办,开始时间是从入职后3月-12月不等...






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  Farmermitbbs (小农) 于 (Sun Jul 31 00:12:45 2011, 美东) 提到:

It is normal to say "it depends you performance".

my experience: My offer did not mention GC and I was sponsored; one year
later we hired another guy and he was not sponsored because the firm started
laying off


【 在 numa (驽马) 的大作中提到: 】
: 刚接到hiring manager的电话口头offer,说会给办h1b.我就问公司是不是可以
sponsor
: 办绿卡.他说还不能承诺,可能要看我以后的表现之类的
: 我就觉得心里没底
: 请问大家都是这样的吗?都是工作一段时间之后再谈绿卡的事?






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  numa (驽马) 于 (Mon Aug  1 13:23:24 2011, 美东) 提到:

谢谢!
给HR写了个email,问他们公司的policy,cc给hiring manager了

偏巧HR这星期不在,自动回复说要下周回来才能看email

等等回复吧,有空再投几个简历,有了别的选择才有发言权...


【 在 Farmermitbbs (小农) 的大作中提到: 】
: It is normal to say "it depends you performance".
: my experience: My offer did not mention GC and I was sponsored; one year
: later we hired another guy and he was not sponsored because the firm
started
:  laying off
: sponsor


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